Is AVP gone?

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So I no longer see the link to the old AVP forums on the front page, and my bookmarked link leads to a 500 error. Are they gone? Has my blog disappeared? Please say no.

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  1. That link at the bottom just points to the table talk discussion of the move over to poker atlas, not to the AVP forums.

  2. ZZ - honestly, other than your blog and the updates on your poker room, there was very little except prodigious amounts of spam in the AVP forums -- I was deleting 15 or so spam posts a day. So, I'm not surprised to see it go away.

  3. Yeah Dave it was pretty spammy over there. I didn't archive my blog so I guess that's gone. Sucks for me!

  4. It would be nice if you at least received an answer to your question.

  5. @zzjitterzz - we apologize for the delayed response. We are aware of the issue with the AVP forum no longer being accessible - this happened during a recent system upgrade. We are actively working on a solution and will post updates here. However, we can confirm that we did not lose any data, including your blog.

    Thanks for your patience,

    The PokerAtlas Team

  6. @PokerAtlas Thank you! Thankfully I've only dealt one straight flush in the interim. :D

  7. Replying here so i remember to put it on my blog if it comes back- I dealt what I think was a King-high straight flush in the Omaha8 game about 2 weeks ago, so another non-paying one. I played last week in my room. $1/2 didn't go well- best hand was T6o getting a 6-6-X flop and beating 86o. I moved over to $2/5 and immediately doubled up Ks9s>TT on a Ts-6s-3s flop, but lost all of that profit in two hands against a guy who I couldn't beat. I had a high pair and each time he would make 2 pair to beat me. Lost a few hundred in the session.

  8. Glad to see the AVP flame is still flickering.

  9. Glad to see the AVP flame is still flickering. Vegas is booked for the week of March Madness.
    And I enjoy reading the blog zz.

  10. Another update to put on my blog if it comes back. Played the tournament and a little cash in my room yesterday. KK and AA both held for decent pots in the tourney, but TT lost to 99 AIPF- 9 right in the window- to nearly bust me. With 1bb, I shoved next hand to bust for real. Hopped in the cash game but was so card dead I played near zero hands and left after 2 hours down $30. Overall, a meh playing day.

  11. Well, I finally dealt a straight flush after I don't know how long, because the tally was on my AVP blog. It was 7-high and I got a good tip from a guy who was just joking that I was one of his least favorite dealers. I moved out of that unenviable position with that pot and bonus, lol.

  12. Played the tournament and cash games in my room earlier today. It didn't start well in the tourney- AKo & AdQd both went down in flames to cost me half my stack. I continued to lose until it all went away when I got it in with A8o on a 9-8-x board, only to run into A9o, lol. I re-entered and my new table was infinitely better. I chipped up by picking up orphan pots and well-timed aggression. Won AJo>JTo to bust a guy then that favorable table broke. The next one was tougher and I went on a chip rollercoaster but prevailed to have more than I came with. We broke again and down to the final two tables. My first hand at the new one I had AKo UTG and raised. A couple of people called but the BB shoved. I overshoved to isolate and was pleased to learn she had KJo. But, wouldn't ya know it, a freaking Jack fell on the turn. I doubled her up and lost a chunk. I never really recovered and the blinds got high so later I shoved in late position with A7o but the BB woke up with AKs. No miracle for me and I was out in 14th. Got into a new cash game then table changed to an established one. I shouldn't have- the one I left looked juicy. I was so card dead I couldn't get any traction, finishing down $80 after 2 hours. Another losing session but I like the way I played in the tournament. I have some poker trips coming up so hopefully it turns around soon.

  13. @zzjitterzz - you have to watch table selection in cash games, best thing you can do for your win rate.

  14. Funny you mention that Dave. I table changed to that one because another dealer that was playing said he "wanted a piece of me." Okay, so I went over there and as soon as I did, he table changed back to the one I left. I shouldn't have left my first game because it was soon populated by a second dealer and a couple of loose players. Oh, well! I'll get 'em next time.

    I dealt another straight flush- a Royal, in fact- earlier today. I got a good tip from the player who I believe was from out of town. He was elated to get $200 extra. Oh, and he flopped it. After not dealing any for some time, two in a week seems like the floodgates are opening. I'd be okay with that, especially if it results in dealing our nearly-$190k bad beat jackpot. That'd be nice!

  15. I believe I have opened the floodgates- I dealt yet another straight flush today- 6 high. Got a small tip from a regular. Also, I was 1 card away from dealing the bad beat- I dealt 1 guy AA and another 88. Flop was A-8-8. It was a $4/8 limit game so once they got heads-up they raised again and again until 88 guy was all-in. It blanked out and after the hand it was learned the the last Ace was folded. So close! It's over $190K now so business has increased as a result, including multiple limit games on the weekends. Plus, the backup is now over $100K. Gonna be busy for a while!

  16. I'll update the Prairie Meadows page with the following information should AVP ever come back, but as of next Thursday, we will no longer have straight flush jackpots. We will add a second backup to the bad beat jackpot, however. BTW, the current jackpot, as of 10pm CST on 2/15 was $196,500, and the backup was $105,000. We continue to be busy as the high BBJ (second highest on record) is driving players to the room.

  17. I actually sent a message several months ago wanting to buy the AVP domain and database and even offered to buy this site as well. Not interested. Both seem to be being neglected soewhat

  18. Well, in 3 hours from now as I write this, the straight flush jackpots will be no longer in the Prairie Meadows poker room. Player reaction has been mixed- some long for the days when they were progressive and some reached over $1k, some were neutral, and some even understood the reasoning- that our current high BBJ is driving people to the room, so management have a vested interest in keeping it high. With 3 jackpots being funded it means we will likely never get down to the $2500 minimum, which has happened in the not-too-distant past when the bad beat goes off twice in rapid succession. I guess I can stop counting how many I've dealt since they will no longer pay. I believe my final tally is 40 in the 20 months I've been dealing poker, but I'm not sure because AVP is still down. Sounds like a good, round number tho.

  19. I wondered how long it would take me to deal a straight flush after we stopped paying out for them, and you can cash your tickets if you had 2 days, lol. Dealt a ten-high in the $4/8 limit hold 'em game and some of the players wondered what was happening when I just pushed the pot, swept up the cards and board, and started dealing the next hand. Once they learned we no longer pay out for straight flushes, they calmed down and decided to change their play to not play so many low suited connectors or one-gappers. This might actually make the bad beat harder to hit as they'll keep fewer potential qualifying hands. I think we'll be busy for the foreseeable future, tho.

  20. Played a little in my room earlier. The tournament didn't go well after a great start- my first hand was AA and I won a small pot. Got 99 a bit later, flopped a set, and won that one. Then, I lost two races when it counted when I had the pair and my opponent caught a 6-outer. I was done after an hour and a half, and I still haven't cashed in our tourneys since we've been able to play. The cash game that followed was a roller coaster to say the least. I made a super thin hero call against a player where my read was that he missed, and I was right. Gave some of that away when I flopped a flush but the other guy flopped the nut flush. Next big positive was with JsTs- I flopped top pair and a flush draw. The turn brought my flush. The river blanked. I decided to check. My hand was good and my opponent said he would have called about $125 on the river. I gave a lot of that back when my straight & flush draw rivered the straight but was already losing to the turned flush. I won a huge one with QJ on a Q-Q-x flop. I got all of that player's chips by shoving the river and he had an inferior queen. Then, a huge 4-way all-in developed. I had KK and called two all-ins of <$200. The flop was Jack-high. The remaining player got the rest of his chips in and I called. He had T8 and rivered the straight to scoop the whole thing, about $950. I addition to my KK, he beat QQ and AA. I didn't last much longer than that. That table was good, tho, so maybe I should have stuck around and tried to get some back. Oh, well. I profited a whole $55 for that cash session, which means I'm stuck $5 for the day after the tournament entry. [shrug emoji]

  21. Sounds like a fun session. Tournament poker can is hard when opponents get on a heater.
    I chopped a local tourney for just under $700 ( Cdn) so that will help my bankroll for Vegas during March Madness week. Can't Wait!!! Best hand was 33 with 5 left. Short stack shoved and got two callers including myself preflop. Flop comes QJ5 with the QJ suited. Checked around. Turn is a 3 that misses the flush:) Checked to me and I bet almost half the pot and I get two calls:) River is a K that hits the flush draw. We get it all in - my full house beats a flush and a straight to get us down to 3. Hopefully I'll see cards like that on holiday.
    Keep on dealing those good hands zz and watch for a trip report in a few weeks.

  22. Dealt another straight flush today- King high. I guess I'll keep tracking them to see if they decline because we no longer pay out for them. By the way, the guy hit a 1-outer to beat a flopped full house. Must be nice!

  23. Played the Tuesday noon tournament earlier today in my room. Played a patient game, picking up pots with timely aggression. I never went to showdown but at the first break I had run my t6000 starting stack to t11,100. It was a smaller field than normal so First ended up being $924 rather than the normal $1000-1100. I finally got some #RunGood kick in when I saw a flop of 9 8 3 holding 9 8 . I checked, my opponent c-bet, I shoved 29bbs over the top, and he called with K 6 . The 8 on the turn sealed the deal for me and I more than doubled up. By the second break I had t34,000, still being patient and picking my spots carefully, but other than a pocket pair I was card dead. Also, it would only 8.5bbs coming back. Thankfully, I finally ran a little better than average- down to 2.5bbs, I shoved A9o and doubled up. Then, on the bubble, I called a short stack with 7 3 for only a bit more than my BB, but he had AA. Oops! But, I went runner-runner to make a straight and get us to the final table and the money! I was still stealing with shoves and the shorties were dropping off. Then, right before the second break, I was third in chips, got AJo and pushed. The second place guy found AQo and called. Flop was a paired and an Ace, so a chop was possible. I was calling for it when a miracle Jack hit the river! That got me the chip lead, then I took a sizable pot off the former leader when my K J beat his QJo on a K-Q-X flop. Going into the third break, I had t240,000, or over half the chips in play, still six handed. With the blinds so high, tho, it was about to become a rollercoaster, especially when my ex girlfriend pushed in to deal. I don't run good with her, lol. Anyway, I did bust the sixth place guy, doubled up a shorty second nut flush < nut flush, and started bleeding chips. The fifth and fourth places busted, leaving us 3-handed, when a monster hand developed. The shorty, who happened to be the AQ guy from earlier, pushed in his 2bb with Q9o. I overshoved with ATo, and the chip leader called it all with 55. A 9 appeared on the board but no Ace or Ten so the shorty tripled up and I was out in third for $364, so I'm still not even for tournaments in my room. I needed first for that, lol. Disappointing, considering my chip position earlier, but you have to run good consistently for several hours to take down one of these dailies. The next time I'll play in my room will be in three weeks. I'm going to Missouri next week and will play at the Hollywood casino Kansas City Kansas in my way back, and the next week is the Mid-States up at Meskwaki. Then, coming up in the first week of April is the WSOP-C in Council Bluffs. Lots of play in the near future!

  24. Dealt another straight flush today- Jack high. That's, what, the third one since we stopped paying out for them? Heh, but of course I would start dealing a ton of them after we stopped giving bonuses for them. Also, the hand was one card away from the bad beat. That's the third time in the past month or so where I've come within one card of dealing it. For the record, our BBJ is at $216k and is still driving business up. You would think I'd be making a lot of money, and for the most part, I am, but last week was down almost 20%, which is more than one standard deviation. I'm back on pace to have a normal week so hopefully it was an anomaly.

  25. Dealt yet another straight flush earlier today- 7 high. That's the FOURTH one since we stopped paying for them 2 weeks ago, lol. I kinda knew I'd have a flood of them now that I won't get tipped extra for the hand. Oh, well.

    As a side note, my ex quit today. She wasn't planning on staying on much longer anyway because we aren't hiring or promoting right now, so she would be stuck in part-time limbo for the foreseeable future, but this is sudden. When we last talked on Tuesday, she was planning on calling in late on her extra shift tomorrow and possibly working one more week, but apparently she had a change of heart and just gave up on it. She "pointed out," which means she's ineligible for rehire, but she told me that dealing was never her back-up plan. I'm sad I'm never going to work with her again but she plays poker so I'm sure I'll see her in there again.

  26. Dealt ANOTHER straight flush today- a steel wheel. Unbelievable. That's FIVE in the two weeks since we stopped giving bonuses for them. Who knows how much in tips I've missed out on because of that. But I have made quite a bit this week because of how busy the room is due to the monster BBJ. So, it probably evens out.

  27. Played a little bit at Hollywood casino Speedway in Kansas City, Kansas on my way home from a short trip to Missouri earlier today. Before I got to the poker room, I dusted of $100 in the pit playing Mississippi Stud. I got into a new game. I had absolutely no reads on anyone and on the first hand I got bluffed off. The three biggest hands were 2 positive, 1 negative- The negative was bricking a gutshot straight flush draw against a flopped set. We got it all in on the flop. Either would have been good if it didn't pair the board. Oh, well. The first positive was the next hand- with 9 8 I flopped two pair and checked in EP. MP bet, LP called, I shoved, MP folded (later I learned it was QQ-wow) and LP called with Q9. I got all of his chips. Later was the second positive- I made a correct call with K J on a 5-K-X, X, 5 board against a guy with had just called the previous 2 streets, but bombed the river. He claimed KTo. This got me to +$200. I bled off $100 before I racked up and left +$100 for the poker session and exactly even for the day. I'll take it! that's a very nice room and I'll be back. They also started a $25/50 mixed game and that had thousands on the table. Impressive money if you're rolled for it!

  28. @zzjitterzz

    looks like the spammers are back

  29. Yeah I don't think they ever really left.

    I dealt yet another straight flush earlier tonight- jack high. That's the sixth in the 3 weeks since we stopped the bonus payouts. And that one was to a former dealer who would have tipped generously. Speaking of former dealers, my ex came in and played. I didn't push her many pots unfortunately. It would suck if we were each others' cursed dealer. I don't have to worry about her dealing to me anymore, but I know I would like to be on the better side of variance when I deal to her.

  30. Played both cash and a tournament at Meskwaki casino near Tama, Iowa yesterday. I got there at 5pm just as the afternoon MSPT qualifier was wrapping up and a cash game was starting. I just ran well, including having the A on a 2-spade flop and going runner-runner spades to get all of one guy's stack. I also used timely aggression to steal pots when scare cards came up. I made $575 in just under 2 hours when it broke for the tournament. I continued to run good but played a tight game. I remember making one soul read with 4th pair to take a decent pot with 25 players left. I also got runner-runner clubs to bust the 11th place guy and bring us to a final table, where I had the big stack of t929k. Blinds were t30k/60k/6k tho, so no one was out of danger. I actually played no hands at the final table- I just watched 5 others go out and then we chopped 5 ways for $365. It's always a good day when you come home with almost $900 more than when you arrived. Looking forward to playing Thursday. Hopefully the PLO game will be better than last November. Also, Lisa the redhead from Maine is in town to deal. I ran good when she dealt to me and it's good to see her dealing again.

  31. Played a little at Meskwaki again today, although I woke up feeling like I was getting sick, so I laid back down for a bit. I got up eventually and headed out the door, about an hour later than I originally wanted. Anyway, when I got up there the lists were long, so I got on the $1/2NLHE, $2/5NLHE, and $1/3(5)PLO/E lists. They opened up a $2/5 game so I sat down with the max $500. I just ran good- the big lucky spot was with K9o I got a flopped King, a turned King, and a river 9, to suck out on a guy who had KQo. Wow! I didn't win every pot, of course, but with that kind of #RunGood, I cashed out for $1550 after 1.75 hours. That was because I got called for the PLO game. Unfortunately, my RunGood didn't follow me- I lost my first buy-in right away when my flopped straight got crushed by river quads. Not a promising start! It never really turned around. I ended up losing $630 in that game, quitting after my illness came roaring back, so I decided to go home. Still, a $420 profit for the day ain't bad, and it continues my March upswing. Next play is the Tuesday noon tournament. Let's go!

  32. Dealt my seventh straight flush - Queen high- since we stopped paying for them. That's the kind of luck I have- don't deal one for several weeks then a flood of them come when it doesn't matter. Lol.

  33. I don't remember when exactly but I dealt a spade Royal flush sometime this week, so that makes 8 in the 5 weeks since we've stopped paying for them. Lol.

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  35. I had a concert to go to in Omaha last night so I figured I'd go to the Horseshoe in Council Bluffs to play some poker. The WSOP-C is in town so I thought the games might be good. In fact, the tournament I chopped last year- $250 non-ring PLO- was being played (as PLO8) but because of the show I didn't have time to play it. I wanted to play cash games for about 3 hours and I wanted to try their $2/3 NLHE game- kind of a stepping stone between $1/3 and $2/5- because I heard it was good. And, boy, was it. I bought in for $500 (of $600 max) and quickly ran it up- with A 4 , the flop came 2-3-5 and I got quite a few chips from a guy who would go on to punt his entire stack. I rivered a full house with Q5 but got no value on the river. In about 45 minutes, I had doubled my stack. Normally, I would go on lockdown and try and preserve most of it, but i had so much time to kill I played on. A poor decision as the cards turned against me. 6 6 got run over by runner-runner flush, 9 9 bricked a 4-way, 3-bet pot, and other such hands meant my $500 profit dwindled to just $70. But, hey, that's still a win! Especially since I usually run awful in that room. Combined with a $300 win playing Mississippi Stud while waiting for my seat makes it a decent day. I had an excellent meal and the concert was fantastic. A good day!

  36. @zzjitterzz - You said this:

    In about 45 minutes, I had doubled my stack. Normally, I would go on lockdown and try and preserve most of it, but i had so much time to kill I played on. A poor decision as the cards turned against me.

    It sounds like you have the same problem that I have, you put together a good win playing your A game and then you get concerned because you have a decent win and you start to play differently. It's something you (and I) need to work on. If your best game is good enough to build up a win, then you need to keep playing it. The ONLY adjustment you should be making is to how strong a hand you'd be willing to play for stacks. Even with that, you should only make that adjustment when you are in a hand against another big stack; against any other stack with a standard buyin or less, you need to play exactly like you did when you were building the big stack. Again, I'm "lecturing" you because it's something I really need to work on as well and we both need to do better at it if we are going to put together some really big wins.

    Dave

  37. Dave, I'll tell ya, I did loosen up a bit when I was up. However, about the only hand I truly shouldn't have played would have been 99 in LP against an EP's limp-3-bet. I knew he had a big hand there but I called, along with 2 other players, knowing I could win a huge pot if I spike a set. I did not. Otherwise, it was just a series of second-best hands and getting run down by draws.

    I played again today at my casino. I originally wasn't going to, but my ex called me out of the blue wanting to get breakfast and play, so I did so. I got unlucky twice- once, with AKo, an idiot called a preflop raise with K2 off and got the magic 2-X-K flop. I lost the minimum by checking back the river. The second time was with A Q - I caught a queen-high flop, got called by AKo on a straight draw and he got there on the turn. Left with crumbs, I shoved 86o in the BB only to get called by 77 and then he flops a set, lol. On to cash games! It did not go well for the first hour, and I wondered if I was going to have my first losing session in a month. I added $100 to my stack and the upswing began- I picked off a 3-barrel bluff by another dealer playing today on a pure soul read. I had only top pair but it was good. The action kind of died at that table so I switched. The new table had lots of chips to be had. I got A 10 OTB and decided to be aggressive, raising to $20 pre. The flop was T-K-X one diamond. I followed my preflop raise with a c-bet, getting two callers. Turn was a 2d. I bet out $125, getting one caller. River was a blank. We checked it down and my pair of tens was good! Next big hand was 6 4 , with which I called a small raise pre. Flop was 8-7-5r. I check-called. Turn was an Ace. Check-call again. River was another Ace. Not my favorite card, but this time I led out big and got a call. My flopped straight was good! I was getting hungry so I decided to lock up my +$610 win and get a sandwich. Meanwhile, my ex got third in the tournament and took some of her winnings to play cash. She told me later she lost a bit but still left a winner for the day. I thanked her for suggesting we play- it profited us both! It may be a bit before I play again because I've played a lot lately, but the siren call of the $240K+ bad beat jackpot at my casino might get me again.

  38. I see the Ace of diamonds symbol doesn't work here either. That's what I had with the ten of diamonds in that hand.

  39. Well, the ~$247k bad beat hit at my casino last night, about 2 hours after I left, and a dealer hired after me dealt it. I swear I'm never going to deal it. i got the 72OFF license plate for a reason, lol. Our backup is ~$138k so not bad.

  40. I got a call from my ex this morning which woke me up. She was calling to suggest we go eat breakfast and play at my casino. I agreed so we met there. We got finished 2 hours before it started so I went up to play cash while she wandered off. My table was awesome- chips were moving around freely but I couldn't make any of them move my way. I lost ~$250 in the session before the tournament even began. The tournament was a roller coaster- start with t6k, up to t14k, back down to t8k, back up to t16k at first break. My ex was at my table and she was running even better- she caught a gutshot straight for a huge double-up. It was, frankly, a bad call on her part but you have to get lucky to run deep in these. I was steady as she goes, with my stack at t26k at the second break, which would only be 6.5bbs. I looked for opportune spots to pick up chips and that worked brilliantly. I was able to steal several blinds, enough to propel me to the final table and the money! My ex also made it so now it was a matter of who would finish higher. Well, she did- I had 52o in the BB and 1 limper and I saw a flop of 7-5-4. I shoved my remaining few BBs in and he insta-called with Ah7h. No five or deuce for me and I was done in ninth for $113.50. It was an easy shove because that guy is literally ATC. My ex busted in sixth so to commiserate we had dinner together. So, my first losing day in over a month, but a minimal one at that. I really like that I'm running deep in tournaments lately. It's 40 days until my Vegas trip and I'm getting excited. Hopefully I can last more than an hour and a half in the WSOP event #1 this time!

  41. Dealt my 9th and 10th straight flushes earlier today- ironically, 9-high and 10-high. So that makes 10 in the 7 weeks since we stopped paying for them. If my blog was up I'd graph when I've dealt them, just to see how many more this is than when we did. *sigh* LOL

  42. Played in my room again yesterday, again at the behest of my ex. I played before the tourney and won enough to more than cover my buy-in. No real big hands, just picking up pots here and there. The tournament was frustrating- I had a lot of big hands that got no value, like TT and AA won the blinds, and KQo flopped two more kings in a 3-way pot but I got no action in the side pot. Finally, after the first break, I had just over starting stack, which was 11bbs. I peeked at 22 and shoved UTG. A loose player overraised with AcJc to isolate and we saw the flop, which, of course, had an Ace. I picked up a straight draw on the turn but bricked to bust. It was a small field so it may not have been worth it to play. Anyway, I went back to play cash but couldn't make any hands, losing $100 quickly and adding it back on. Then, I won an interesting pot- I had JsTc and flopped an open-ender. I turned a straight draw and the river bricked. It turns out I was against an inferior draw and jack-high was good! I recovered about half my losses. By then, my ex had busted and texted me how nice it was outside. I figured I should quit so I racked up down $100, but with my earlier win it was only a loss of $15 for the day. Another losing day but once again the loss was tiny. As long as I can continue to minimize my losses and max out the gains, I'll keep growing my bankroll. Vegas in 5 weeks!

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